Assassin's Creed Black Flag vs Odyssey: Which Is Better?

Assassin's Creed® IV Black Flag
Winner
Assassin's Creed® Odyssey
Verdict
Black Flag takes it, four categories to three, and our players back it by a narrow margin at 4.64 out of 5 against 4.53 for Odyssey. Odyssey is the better game to fight in and the better looking one, and it is the only one of the two with a reason to play it twice. Black Flag wins because nothing in it gates you: no levels, no gear score, and a Caribbean you can cross without a loading screen.
- Play Assassin's Creed® IV Black Flag if you want the sea to be the whole point, with no levels or gear scores standing between you and the next island.
- Play Assassin's Creed® Odyssey if you want the bigger world, the skill trees and the branching choices, and repeated settlements are a fair price for them.
Scoreboard
Assassin's Creed® IV Black Flag wins 4, Assassin's Creed® Odyssey wins 3
- World and explorationAssassin's Creed® IV Black Flag
- Combat and gameplayAssassin's Creed® Odyssey
- Story and charactersAssassin's Creed® IV Black Flag
- DifficultyAssassin's Creed® IV Black Flag
- Visuals and performanceAssassin's Creed® Odyssey
- Length and valueAssassin's Creed® IV Black Flag
- Replayability and buildsAssassin's Creed® Odyssey
At a glance
| Assassin's Creed® IV Black Flag | Assassin's Creed® Odyssey | |
|---|---|---|
| Released | October 2013 | October 2018 |
| Platforms | PS4 | PlayStation 4, PC, Xbox One, Nintendo Switch |
| Length | 36 h main, 57 h complete | ~31 h |
| Player rating | 4.64 / 5 (79,439)higher | 4.53 / 5 (100,310) |
| Critic score | n/a | 85 / 100 |
| PS Plus | PS+ Extra | PS+ Extra |
| Co-op and multiplayer | Single player, Multiplayer, Co-operative; online up to 8 | Single player |
| DLC | 11 DLC | None |
| Genres | Action, Action | Action, Adventure, Role Playing Games |
| Progression | No levels, no skill trees, no gear score | Levels, skill trees and scaling gear |
| Endings | One ending | Multiple endings shaped by dialogue choices |
| Best for | The sea, and side content that pays back the detour | The bigger role playing game, if repetition is an acceptable price |
Do you need to play Black Flag first?
No. These two are five years and two design philosophies apart, and they share no characters, no setting and no plot thread that needs taking in order. Black Flag is 1715 in the Caribbean with Edward Kenway. Odyssey is the Peloponnesian War with Kassandra or Alexios, and our catalogue files it under role playing games where Black Flag sits under action. Nothing in one sets up the other.
Order still matters, for a different reason. Playing Odyssey first and Black Flag second means moving backward through the combat overhaul, and the GameFAQs regulars are blunt about how the older system feels once you are used to the newer one. The reverse order is kinder to Black Flag.
- Start with Black Flag if you want the better paced of the two and the one with no level gates.
- Move to Odyssey when you want a bigger world and do not mind working through repetition to see it.
- Skip the order question entirely if you only want one, since neither depends on the other.
World and exploration: Assassin's Creed® IV Black Flag

Black Flag takes this because its map is one continuous thing. Sailing between Havana, Kingston and Nassau happens without a loading screen, so the Caribbean reads as a single place rather than a menu of regions, and a sail on the horizon is a reason to change course. The side content sits directly on those routes: naval forts to take, wrecks to dive, a ship to upgrade with what you pull out of them. Odyssey is larger, and the r/assassinscreed thread asking which is prettier gives it the win without much argument, but the same threads keep returning to copy pasted settlements, and our stored player complaints for it name repetitive quests. Bigger is not the same as worth crossing, and that is the line this category is judged on.
Combat and gameplay: Assassin's Creed® Odyssey

Odyssey wins on foot and it is not close. Its fighting descends from the Origins overhaul, and our catalogue records the machinery Black Flag does not have at all: leveling, skill trees and a loot system driving ability based combat. PC Gamer went as far as calling it possibly the best combat in the series. Black Flag runs the pre Origins system, which the GameFAQs regulars describe as standing still and countering until the fight is over. The one thing Black Flag keeps is the water, where the same board is blunt that it has the far superior naval combat, and where Odyssey's ships are a feature rather than the foundation. On land, though, this is Odyssey's category by a wide margin.
Story and characters: Assassin's Creed® IV Black Flag

Black Flag, and its own players say why. Strong story and character development sits in its stored praise, and Edward Kenway is the reason: a pirate who wants no part of the creed and gets pulled toward it anyway. It is one arc, it has one ending, and it lands. Odyssey answers with structure rather than character. Our catalogue lists dialogue, choice based branching and multiple endings for it, and its stored praise names the historical figures you meet, which is a genuine strength if you want a story you steer rather than one you are told. The trade is focus. Odyssey's recurring complaint, repetitive quests, is a story problem as much as a pacing one, because the side missions stop carrying anything after a while.
Difficulty: Assassin's Creed® IV Black Flag

Black Flag, on the grounds that its difficulty is something you pick and Odyssey's is something you are assigned. Odyssey's stored complaints name level scaling making encounters frustrating, and its mechanics record lists leveling and skill trees, which is the machinery behind that: an area can be shut to you because a number is too low, and the fix is grinding rather than playing better. Black Flag's mechanics list carries no leveling and no skill trees whatsoever, so nothing in it gates a destination. Its own complaints are about tedium instead, tailing missions and a clunky movement system, which is a different and more forgivable failure than being told to come back later with a bigger number.
Visuals and performance: Assassin's Creed® Odyssey

Odyssey, by five years and a hardware generation. Massive open world with stunning visuals is the first item in its stored praise, and the r/assassinscreed thread asking which of the two is more beautiful settles on Odyssey with no real dissent. It also has somewhere to go on current hardware: our stored video library for it includes a next generation patch analysis testing a locked 60 frames per second, which is not something Black Flag received. Black Flag is a 2013 game and shows it, and the clunky movement system in its stored complaints is the criticism most tied to its age. The sea holds up better than the land does, but this is one of the few categories where neither the numbers nor the threads are split.
Length and value: Assassin's Creed® IV Black Flag

This goes to Black Flag, and not because it is longer, because it is not. Our data logs a Black Flag main run at about 36 hours and a full clear at roughly 57. Odyssey's length is not logged in our catalogue at all, and players place it well above both figures. The question is what those extra hours actually are. Odyssey's own stored complaint is repetitive quests, and the r/assasinscreed verdict is that its scope suffers from bloat and fatigue, which is padding under another name. Black Flag's side content is a shorter list that mostly pays out: forts, wrecks, ship upgrades, all of it sitting on a route you were sailing anyway. Both are included on PS Plus Extra, so this is a question of time rather than price.
Replayability and builds: Assassin's Creed® Odyssey

Odyssey, and this is where its role playing machinery finally pays off instead of getting in the way. Our catalogue lists dialogue, choice based branching and multiple endings for it, sitting on top of skill trees and a loot system, so a second run can end somewhere the first one did not and can be built around a different set of abilities. That is genuine extra content rather than a repeated checklist. Black Flag's replay hooks are collectibles and hidden secrets, the shanties and chests and wrecks, and once that list is cleared the game has nothing further to show you. Its sailing holds up on a return visit, but a second Black Flag run does not play any differently. Odyssey at least changes shape.
What players say
Assassin's Creed® IV Black Flag
Praise
- Immersive and enjoyable naval combat
- Strong story and character development
- A vast open world with real exploration payoff
Complaints
- Frequent issues with Ubisoft Connect and the launcher
- A clunky movement system that shows the game is from 2013
- Tailing missions that drag
Assassin's Creed® Odyssey
Praise
- Massive open world with stunning visuals
- Engaging RPG mechanics and character progression
- Intriguing storyline with historical characters
Complaints
- Repetitive gameplay and quests
- Level scaling that makes some encounters frustrating
- Technical issues, including long load times
The games
Frequently Asked Questions
- Which is better, Assassin's Creed Black Flag or Odyssey?
- Black Flag, narrowly. Our players rate it 4.64 out of 5 from 79,439 ratings against 4.53 from 100,310 for Odyssey, and it takes four of the seven categories here: world, story, difficulty and value. Odyssey wins combat, visuals and replay value. The short version is the one the community keeps landing on: Odyssey is the better open world role playing game, and Black Flag is the better Assassin's Creed game.
- Is Odyssey bigger than Black Flag?
- Yes, considerably. Our catalogue logs a Black Flag main run at roughly 36 hours and a full clear at about 57, while Odyssey's length is not logged at all and players consistently place it well above both. Size is not automatically a point in its favour, though. The recurring complaint in Odyssey's stored player reviews is repetitive quests, and r/assasinscreed describes its scope as suffering from bloat and fatigue.
- Should I play Black Flag before Odyssey?
- There is no story reason to. They share no characters, no setting and no plot, so neither sets up the other and either works as a starting point. The one practical argument for Black Flag first is combat: Odyssey uses the overhauled system introduced in Origins, and GameFAQs posters are consistent that Black Flag's older counter based fighting feels dated once you have played the newer one.
- Does Assassin's Creed Black Flag still have multiplayer?
- Treat it as a single player game. Our catalogue records multiplayer and co-operative modes for up to eight players, but Steam and TrueAchievements discussion threads have reported the multiplayer as unreachable or broken on and off for years, and Ubisoft has been retiring online services across its older titles. Odyssey has no multiplayer at all. If playing alongside someone else is the deciding factor, neither of these two is the right purchase.
- Which has better combat, Black Flag or Odyssey?
- Odyssey on land, Black Flag at sea. Odyssey inherits the Origins combat overhaul and adds leveling, skill trees and a loot system, and PC Gamer went as far as calling it possibly the best combat in the series. Black Flag runs the older counter based system that GameFAQs posters describe as standing still and waiting. Its naval combat is the reverse case, and the same board calls it far superior to Odyssey's ships.
- Are Black Flag and Odyssey on PS Plus?
- Both are included with PS Plus Extra, so a subscriber can start either one at no extra cost. Both are PlayStation 4 releases that play on PS5, and both are rated Mature by the ESRB. Odyssey is the one with a next generation patch behind it: our stored video library includes an analysis testing a locked 60 frames per second, which Black Flag never received.
Sources
- GameFAQs: Odyssey or Black Flag, on the naval gap and the Origins combat overhaul
- Reddit r/assasinscreed: AC Black Flag or Odyssey
- Reddit r/ShouldIbuythisgame: Should I buy AC black flag or AC Odyssey?
- Reddit r/assassinscreed: Assassin's Creed Origins, Black Flag or Odyssey?
- PC Gamer: Assassin's Creed Odyssey might have the best combat of the entire series
- Game-Scout players: Assassin's Creed IV Black Flag
- Game-Scout players: Assassin's Creed Odyssey

